UPDATE 2/13/14
The FD Explorer 8.8 is now released for purchase!
http://www.roninspeedworks.net/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=88Why? The Ford 8.8 is a substantially stronger diff than the factory Mazda rear end. It's available in a huge range of gear ratios (3.08:1 up to 5.71:1) just looking at Summit Racing. Gears are also cheap since Ford has used the 8.8 in so many varieties. You can also find just about any style of differential from factory clutch packs, to spools, to helical gears.
We use a donor rear end from a 2007-2010 Ford Explorer (some 06's work but it appears that there may be a half model year split, you want dual front mounts). It's Ford's classic 8.8" ring an pinion in a stout aluminum case. This particual case is noteworthy because it uses massive dual front mounts. The support points on the Explorer makes the Cobra 8.8 front mounts look tiny by comparison. Furthermore, the Explorer parts are both easier and cheaper to come by than the comparable Cobra pieces. The Explorer diff even has fins which the Cobra doesn't for slightly better cooling.
Here's the 8.8 Cobra from a terminator Mustang (note the tiny front mounts)
Explorer (in our test fitup!):
You're not breaking these ears off!
Our front mount is a weld in cradle which is well triangulated to the subframe. Everything mounts from the topside which dramatically improves the load path AND you'll retain close to factory like exhaust clearances.
Lots of space for exhaust!
The rear mount uses a sandwiched ring with the ears cut off the factory cover.
Note, depending on which year of explorer you end up with you may find that Ford changed the rear cover design. Some 2006 covers are the same as the 02-05 setup and use a high rib count. Here's the comparison with what the never cover looks like (cover on the left has already had its ears cut off).
Kit includes:• Front Mount Support Bridge (weld in)
• Rear Mount Diff Ring Cradle (bolt on)
• 2X Custom 4340 heat treated axle bars (Ford to Mazda conversion)
• 2X EMPI CV boot kit 86-2127 (outer CV joints)
• 2X EMPI CV boot kit 86-2103 (inner CV joints)
• All Mounting Hardware
• RTV silicon (for rear cover installation sealing
• Instructions, specs, and recommendations on mating parts (IE driveshaft) sent electronically
Users must provide:
• FD Outer CV Joints (typically donor from the car being swapped)
• Ford 8.8" Rear End (2007-2010 Ford Explorer) including inner stub axles/CV joints
• A Driveshaft (install instructions include a variety of recommendations)
• FD rear diff isolators (user's choice of style but we like polyurethane).
Pricing will always be current on
www.roninspeedworks.com but we're launching this at $1195. All in, including donor parts $1800 to $2000 is a reasonable budget depending on what you want for a driveshaft.
How much power will it hold? A LOT, but to be fair we don't really know since we haven't broken one yet. One of the early adopters is making 1000 whp in a road race application. No issues thus far.
-Joel
PS (for posterity sake I'm keeping all the thread with the development, twists and turns). The current configuration was first launched around post 90.
http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=15911.msg231470#msg231470>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Start former thread>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hey guys,
Just wanted to give you a heads up that we're about to launch our FD Explorer 8.8 setup. It's something we've had in works for a while but it's finally ready start talking about formally. The design is effectively complete, we should be finishing up the first article this week (so we'll have pretty pictures soon).
Basics:
-Uses an 2006-2010 IRS rear end from a Ford Explorer (we need to verify if the 2011's and newer work too). This is an aluminum case with dual front mounts and each front mount is massive. The support makes the Cobra front mounts look tiny by comparison. Explorer parts are both easier and cheaper to come by than the comparable Cobra pieces.
-100% bolt in, no welding required.
-Everything mounts from the topside which dramatically improves the load path AND you'll retain close to factory like exhaust clearances.
-Includes 4340 heat treated halfshafts and boots which will mate to Mazda outer CVs.
Axle design has been finalized and are being ordered today. That's our long lead item so we should be ~6 weeks from shipping out the first kits.
Pricepoint will be similar to the FC setup (may jump a bit, but not much), so all in you're looking at <$2000 including both the Ronin purchase and the donor/purchased parts, to be sourced separately.
Wanted to put out a call on the early side asking for testers. We'll cut you a discount in exchange for helping us figure out if there are production tolerances we need to be aware of (fitment check) and your impressions of the kit. Let us know if you're interested in this thread and I'll send everyone details in a few weeks.
More info coming soon,
-Joel (for the Ronin crew)