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*NEW* T56 Magnum (TR6060) 6speeds for sale! $3195
« on: April 17, 2012, 05:36:30 PM »
Please PM me if you are interested in the new Magnum T56's which are the latest 6speeds out for a reasonable price designed as a replacement part for the '98-02 style Fbodies and Hot Rod projects.  Instead of sourcing a used unknown condition T56 and eventually having to rebuild it... you can start out with a better and stronger unit from the beginning... plus it is brand new!  The main attraction is that the gears are wider than stock made of a stronger material, bearings are larger supporting higher loads, rails/shafts are also made of stronger materials, a 31 spline output shaft, beefier case with more reinforcement, 3 shifter locations available by removing cover plates, and also 2 types of speedo pickups (electronic signal + mechanical).  They include all sensors, can be used with either an electronic or mechanical speedo and have many other great features.  They do not include a bellhousing; however one can be purchased and I sell factory style plus SFi steel safety version.  Works with GTO or Fbody LS style bellhousing.  Fbody preferred due to better starter options that fit (cheaper).

The trans also features cast in bosses for a gear sprayer pump/oil cooler if needed. The old T56 unit has no pump provision and under very high power the oil would migrate to the rear of the transmission allowing for excessive heat buildup in the front section (under drag racing/highway pulls) where oil is lacking in the proper quantity. The input and countershaft gears would fail under high load.  The new TR6060 design allows you to spray up front on the gears where they need the cooling/buffer in extreme conditions.

This unit is essentially a new TR6060 Tremec transmission (available in the 2008+ Z06 and ZR1 plus the 2010+ Camaro, Viper, Challenger etc.) and has been available since 2011 in this custom configuration.  Similar to the one which is found in the 2010+ Camaro mounted directly behind the engine; however it doesn't have a remote style shifter as it was designed as a replacement for the Fbody Camaro unit as stated.   It has a standard style 31 splined output shaft (larger than the Viper unit and also made of stronger material).  Being a clean slate design it has addressed many of the shortcomings the 4th gen Fbody transmission has under aggressive and extreme driving conditions.  It is the premier 6 speed of choice for the consumer shopping for a reliable, smooth shifting, quiet, and strong transmission.

Incorporating the new TR6060 style front bearing plate with a removable bellhousing provision (factory TR6060 5th gen Camaro has a fixed bellhousing/bearing plate as 1 unit) it offers plenty of options for the consumer.  This will allow the use of an aftermarket Quicktime style SFI steel bellhousing and stock style bellhousings supporting LT or LS engines as well.

This tailhousing is 1.9" longer than an Fbody/GTO and Tremec made the shifter centerline a few inches forward in comparison to the 4th gen Fbody shifter location.  The solution is to run a shifter option/handles/sticks to put it where you need it and the shifter can be located where you want it. This also means you need a slightly shorter driveshaft with the proper spline count (31 spline) on the yoke side.  There are a number of shifter options to put it where you need it centered in your transmission tunnel opening.  NorCal Auto Group offers one that works well and is easily customizable! We use it on our gray shop LS7 FD.

It is miles better than an FBody/GTO T56 trans (designed in the early 90's) in terms of strength and is smoother shifting, eliminates the key system, has the same gear ratios as the Fbody T56 (2.66 1st and same 2nd-4th) however it has a closer .80 5th and .63 6th ratio to keep you in the powerband when shifting from 4th-5th for high speed use.  The closer 5th gear ratio, increased strength, and smoother shifting are huge bonuses.  In a lightweight and high HP RX-7 the stock 1-4 Fbody gearing is perfect for putting down the power.

As mentioned the gear faces themselves are also wider and made of a better quality steel, larger bearings allow
it to handle higher loads before deflection, the shafts are forged from a better material and the mainshaft/output shaft is 31 spline vs. 27 spline. A non Magnum T56 has many shortcomings from the factory as better parts were developed over time which can be added during a rebuild.... but even after doing so the new Magnum T56 is still leaps and bounds stronger and offers smoother shifting that can never be matched by an older 4th gen style T56.  The input shaft spline count remains the same so you can retain your current clutch combo. 

The stock T56 seems to have a limit of around 600rwhp in heavier cars before the output shaft breaks or gears break.  The Magnum T56 (TR6060) is closer to 900-1000rwhp+. They rate it for less (700) in a 4500lb+ car launching on slicks with no failures repeatedly.  Any manual transmission with enough abuse is not immune from breakage.  That being said I'm pushing 1400hp/1400 ft/lbs torque thru a STOCK T56 Magnum and McLeod HD1200 RXT twin disc clutch that is fully streetable and no issues. 

How the TREMECŪ T-56 MAGNUM 6-Speed is improved.

http://www.moderndriveline.com/Technical_Bits/how_the_tremec_t-56_magnum_is_improved.htm

That link above is not me; however it is a good read... if you are interested in one please PM or email me (contact info provided at the bottom of this thread). Can ship worldwide.

If it tells you anything... I removed a built zero mile 4th gen FBody T56 from my LS7 powered FD to install a new Magnum.  It also allowed me check fitment issues as the case itself is a bit beefier and appears to be slightly wider towards the tailshaft area.  Fitment issues were nill.... and it bolts right in.  The rubber/poly mount even remains in the same location.  Main differences over a 4th gen Fbody T56 is the driveshaft yoke spline count (now 31 spline), shifter location (needs the DMshifter to move it 4" rearward), and last but not least the length (shorter).

Please PM or email me for further info and "norotors.com member" pricing:  norcalmotorsport@gmail.com or gnx7@hotmail.com


Thank you!

Mark
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'93 FD: 441ci/AllPro LS7 heads/intake en route, T56 Mag, 8.8" IRS, HolleyHP, DavisTechTC 10.32@137mph cats/full exhaust. 165mph 1/2 mile (old LS7)
'93 FD LS9 turbo, T56 Mag, Samberg 8.8" solid axle, 9.35@163mph 197mph 1/2 mile
`69 Chevelle: alum 5.3, GTS76 turbo, ChiseledPerf A/W, T56 Magnum,Ford 35 spline 9".CTS-V interior http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=18234.0
old yellar....440rwhp/FD sold but not forgotten: http://www.ponycars.net/scc.htm
I sell new T56 Magnums/McLeod clutch/T56 rebuild kits/Holley EFI/FIC injectors and all BrianTooleyRacing parts.  norcalmotorsport@gmail.com

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Re: *NEW* T56 Magnum (TR6060) 6speeds for sale! $2895
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2012, 05:27:57 AM »
very interested in fitment when you get it installed, from what i remember the gto t56 had the best fitment in the fd as far as shifter location goes.

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Re: *NEW* T56 Magnum (TR6060) 6speeds for sale! $2895
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2012, 09:56:32 PM »
The trans is out of my gray FD.. now I just have to order up myself and Mike 2 new T56 Magnums.
'93 FD: 441ci/AllPro LS7 heads/intake en route, T56 Mag, 8.8" IRS, HolleyHP, DavisTechTC 10.32@137mph cats/full exhaust. 165mph 1/2 mile (old LS7)
'93 FD LS9 turbo, T56 Mag, Samberg 8.8" solid axle, 9.35@163mph 197mph 1/2 mile
`69 Chevelle: alum 5.3, GTS76 turbo, ChiseledPerf A/W, T56 Magnum,Ford 35 spline 9".CTS-V interior http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=18234.0
old yellar....440rwhp/FD sold but not forgotten: http://www.ponycars.net/scc.htm
I sell new T56 Magnums/McLeod clutch/T56 rebuild kits/Holley EFI/FIC injectors and all BrianTooleyRacing parts.  norcalmotorsport@gmail.com

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Re: *NEW* T56 Magnum (TR6060) 6speeds for sale! $2895
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2012, 04:37:59 AM »
We use a TR6060 (internally identical to T56 Magnum) in our LS6 car, ever since driving Conrad Grunewald's 2010 Camaro (Formula Drift) I knew I had to have one.  Heads and shoulders above the T56 in feel, power handling, and gear ratios, plus with the T56 Magnum you have so many shifter options it's ridiculous.

There's an LSx bellhousing that'll bolt right up with any LSx engine, but people coming from T56's will need to do new trans mounts.  No big deal, totally worth it.

This is a good price, I think Mark's selling them for the same price I buy them for wholesale!  :cheers:

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Re: *NEW* T56 Magnum (TR6060) 6speeds for sale! $2895
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2012, 06:47:45 PM »
very interested in fitment when you get it installed, from what i remember the gto t56 had the best fitment in the fd as far as shifter location goes.

+1.

I'd like to know if the transmission mount is different compared to a T56 as well.

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Re: *NEW* T56 Magnum (TR6060) 6speeds for sale! $2895
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2012, 09:20:45 PM »
very interested in fitment when you get it installed, from what i remember the gto t56 had the best fitment in the fd as far as shifter location goes.

+1.

I'd like to know if the transmission mount is different compared to a T56 as well.

As posted above, it is different, but not by a lot.

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Re: *NEW* T56 Magnum (TR6060) 6speeds for sale! $2895
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2012, 10:33:58 PM »
damn it man! i just bought a brand new  t56 for my chevelle want to trade? :)
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Re: *NEW* T56 Magnum (TR6060) 6speeds for sale! $2895
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2012, 09:53:06 PM »
Hey Mark, long time no talk buddy!  I just stuck the Magnum in my FD (MotoIQ Project V8 RX-7) and it is so much nicer than the T-56 I had on the LS1 before (of which i had to replace a broken shifter key). 

There were a couple things i had to fix to make the shifter work but the only real PITA with the Magnum was the shifter positioning.. The tailshaft IS longer, so I ended up having to shorten my driveshaft, but the shifter housing is farther forward than on the regular T-56--so I had to have a custom offset shifter made.  Wait till you see it, it's DOPE :)  AND I'm pretty sure the guys that made it for me are going to be able to produce it for the general public--otherwise you'd have to use a real long offset shift arm that might make for a weird throw.

The connectors on the Magnum are all Ford too, so I had to buy new pigtails for the VSS, reverse lockout and reverse lights, but that's easy and already up in part 7 of the project series with part numbers if you're interested: http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_articles/id/2275/project-v8-rx-7-part-7--bringing-the-e-rod-ls3-to-life-almost.aspx

The tranny mount has gotta be pretty much the same.. I had the hinson kit in before and switched to Samberg's for this swap so i don't have apples to compare but it all bolted up to the chassis like it seemed it was sposed to.  The mount's bolt holes have some adjustability in them too if i'm not mistaken? 

Next week is gonna be "Project V8 RX-7 Week" on the site, so i'll have a buttload of updates including the shifter to show off.  The car is CA smog legal as of last friday I'm proud to say once again!  :halo:

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Re: *NEW* T56 Magnum (TR6060) 6speeds for sale! $2895
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2012, 02:15:18 AM »
Jeff-  Good to hear you are back on the V8 RX-7 forum!  That is a bad ass project.  Love reading about it.  Congrats on being smog legal too!

I sold a local guy with a 2002 Camaro a Magnum and he said the electrical portion on his was plug and play.  He did mention that there was no provision for a torque arm mount.... but he runs a tubular aftermarket one anyway.  Also my Tremec distributor in TX makes his own shifter that allows MANY options for where you want the stick. 

Would love to see some pics of your shifter setup.  I hope to order my T56 Magnum after Memorial Day weekend.
'93 FD: 441ci/AllPro LS7 heads/intake en route, T56 Mag, 8.8" IRS, HolleyHP, DavisTechTC 10.32@137mph cats/full exhaust. 165mph 1/2 mile (old LS7)
'93 FD LS9 turbo, T56 Mag, Samberg 8.8" solid axle, 9.35@163mph 197mph 1/2 mile
`69 Chevelle: alum 5.3, GTS76 turbo, ChiseledPerf A/W, T56 Magnum,Ford 35 spline 9".CTS-V interior http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=18234.0
old yellar....440rwhp/FD sold but not forgotten: http://www.ponycars.net/scc.htm
I sell new T56 Magnums/McLeod clutch/T56 rebuild kits/Holley EFI/FIC injectors and all BrianTooleyRacing parts.  norcalmotorsport@gmail.com

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Re: *NEW* T56 Magnum (TR6060) 6speeds for sale! $2895
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2012, 04:08:12 PM »
hmm, weird on those electrical connections... It's a minor thing anyway.

Anyway, it's Project V8 RX-7 Week on the site so there'll be 5 new articles to read!  the first of which has the shifter I got made up by Sikky! 



here's the related article:  http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_articles/id/2546/project-v8-rx-7-part-8--the-shifter.aspx

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Re: *NEW* T56 Magnum (TR6060) 6speeds for sale! $2895
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2012, 02:14:22 AM »
That is a very nice looking shifter! 
'93 FD: 441ci/AllPro LS7 heads/intake en route, T56 Mag, 8.8" IRS, HolleyHP, DavisTechTC 10.32@137mph cats/full exhaust. 165mph 1/2 mile (old LS7)
'93 FD LS9 turbo, T56 Mag, Samberg 8.8" solid axle, 9.35@163mph 197mph 1/2 mile
`69 Chevelle: alum 5.3, GTS76 turbo, ChiseledPerf A/W, T56 Magnum,Ford 35 spline 9".CTS-V interior http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=18234.0
old yellar....440rwhp/FD sold but not forgotten: http://www.ponycars.net/scc.htm
I sell new T56 Magnums/McLeod clutch/T56 rebuild kits/Holley EFI/FIC injectors and all BrianTooleyRacing parts.  norcalmotorsport@gmail.com

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Re: *NEW* T56 Magnum (TR6060) 6speeds for sale! $2895
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2012, 12:50:37 PM »
Hey Mark, any examples of your Tremec distributor's shifter?

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Re: *NEW* T56 Magnum (TR6060) 6speeds for sale! $2895
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2012, 01:51:46 PM »
I'll try to get some pics from him next week.

Ordering 3 units next week as I've taken a deposit on the red #47 FD race car.  Or will once I cash it.  Test fitting will be shortly after that into my car.
'93 FD: 441ci/AllPro LS7 heads/intake en route, T56 Mag, 8.8" IRS, HolleyHP, DavisTechTC 10.32@137mph cats/full exhaust. 165mph 1/2 mile (old LS7)
'93 FD LS9 turbo, T56 Mag, Samberg 8.8" solid axle, 9.35@163mph 197mph 1/2 mile
`69 Chevelle: alum 5.3, GTS76 turbo, ChiseledPerf A/W, T56 Magnum,Ford 35 spline 9".CTS-V interior http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=18234.0
old yellar....440rwhp/FD sold but not forgotten: http://www.ponycars.net/scc.htm
I sell new T56 Magnums/McLeod clutch/T56 rebuild kits/Holley EFI/FIC injectors and all BrianTooleyRacing parts.  norcalmotorsport@gmail.com

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Re: *NEW* T56 Magnum (TR6060) 6speeds for sale! $2895
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2012, 04:25:29 PM »
Sweet. If all goes well with that you'll be getting an order from me.

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Re: *NEW* T56 Magnum (TR6060) 6speeds for sale! $2895
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2012, 03:24:52 PM »
Finally got the deposit on the red LPI Racing FD so it is technically sold.  That means I can order up the T56 Magnum for myself.

So I put in an order for (3) of them and sent out payment.  One for the guy that bought the race car, 1 for me, and 1 for Mike (LS1-FD) who is doing a turbo LS9 powered 528i BMW. 

Should have it in the gray street car shortly after that... and the goal is to have the car finished in July.
'93 FD: 441ci/AllPro LS7 heads/intake en route, T56 Mag, 8.8" IRS, HolleyHP, DavisTechTC 10.32@137mph cats/full exhaust. 165mph 1/2 mile (old LS7)
'93 FD LS9 turbo, T56 Mag, Samberg 8.8" solid axle, 9.35@163mph 197mph 1/2 mile
`69 Chevelle: alum 5.3, GTS76 turbo, ChiseledPerf A/W, T56 Magnum,Ford 35 spline 9".CTS-V interior http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=18234.0
old yellar....440rwhp/FD sold but not forgotten: http://www.ponycars.net/scc.htm
I sell new T56 Magnums/McLeod clutch/T56 rebuild kits/Holley EFI/FIC injectors and all BrianTooleyRacing parts.  norcalmotorsport@gmail.com