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Offline frijolee

FC "Mandeville" Big Brake Kit
« on: September 07, 2010, 03:31:47 PM »
Announcing a Ronin Speedworks Group Buy:

This is a DIY big brake kit for the FC that uses spacers and adapator brackets to allow use of your OEM 4-piston calipers with brake rotors from Brembo equipped 350Zs (to be purchased separately).  The 350z rotor in question is a 2" larger in diameter and more than a 1/4" thicker so the increase in thermal mass is substantial.  Futhermore, a wide variety of 350z rotors are avaible up to and including "direct replacement" two piece curved vane style.  Significant effort has been made to optimize pad engagement with the new rotors.  As such use of this kit will require users to grind open the caliper slot.  The caliper spacers to account for added thickness are precisely profiled to serve as a guide with how much to grind.  Full details are in the instructions.







This is a front brake kit only.  It comes with:
2 Caliper relocation brackets
4 Caliper spacers
4 O-rings (for spacer to caliper sealing, other O-ring is factory)
8 Upsized bridge bolts (and damn these were hard to find)
2 Wheel spacers (account for decreased rotor thickness)
4 M12-1.25 x 35mm bolts (caliper to bracket mounting)
4 M12-1.25 x 30mm bolts (knuckle to bracket mounting)
8 Nordlock washers
1 Extremely detailed install document including all torque information.   

You have two choices to keep overall brake bias optimized.
1) You can run an adjustable proportioning valve keep your OEM size rear brakes.  (I'm doing this).
2) You can go big in back as well with Corksport's for their '99 spec rotor conversion.  This will still shift bias forward ~1% but if you're on sticky tires this helps (as one tester was able to prove on a four wheel kit during testing).

We're opening with a group buy at the following price scale for the front kit:

FC brakes
$495 MSRP (aka lot of 1)
$465 group buy with 5 folks paid
$435 group buy with 10
$395 group buy with 20

Plan on +$200 for basic rotors and rotor machining (you need to open up the center bore of the 350z rotor to maintain hubcentricity) and you simply can't get better brakes at this price.  You will need 17" wheels to run these brakes, they require 1" clearance more to wheel spokes than the OEM setup.  A template for wheel clearance will be forthcoming.

Note: we're still in process of setting up business formalities so further information on group buy details are coming (IE, we need our legal counsel to tell us if we have to wait for LLC and business license to be approved before we can ship parts).  I might mention that parts are already built and standing by but if we have to wait for business licenses that could put the release toward late October.  Please contact Frijolee if you have immediate needs.

Group buy list:
1) SuperSlow
2) sleeper69
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« Last Edit: August 05, 2011, 01:10:24 PM by frijolee »
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Re: FC "Mandeville" Big Brake Kit - group buy
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2010, 12:15:08 PM »
Joel; Since I feel sorry for the lack of response you have received on this fine product, I am willing to make a  courtesy (or mercy) purchase. Could you please add me to the list? Come on guys, this is an extremly well thought out product that was designed by a professional engineer. Thanks, Berg
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Re: FC "Mandeville" Big Brake Kit - group buy
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2010, 12:24:14 PM »
Joel,

You mention 1 inch additional clearance vs stock wheels.  I was planning on running the Mustang Cobra wheels on my car... WOuld you know if these wheels will clear the brakes?
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Offline frijolee

Re: FC "Mandeville" Big Brake Kit - group buy
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2010, 12:35:24 PM »
Joel; Since I feel sorry for the lack of response you have received on this fine product, I am willing to make a  courtesy (or mercy) purchase. Could you please add me to the list? Come on guys, this is an extremly well thought out product that was designed by a professional engineer. Thanks, Berg

Berg, thanks for the support.  To be honest we haven't been pushing this since we decided we need to have the business formalities 100% squared away prior to shipping brake parts.  Hoods and most of the composite goods are already proven or relatively low risk so we're getting those going first while we wait on CA to approve our LLC application (we need that prior to filing the business license).

Joel,

You mention 1 inch additional clearance vs stock wheels.  I was planning on running the Mustang Cobra wheels on my car... WOuld you know if these wheels will clear the brakes?

I don't off hand.  I really need to get that template done...  LargeOrangeFont runs cobra wheels so you could ask him.
LS2 stroker FC, Mandeville big brakes, widebody, etc
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Offline Pez

Re: FC "Mandeville" Big Brake Kit - group buy
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2010, 01:09:34 PM »
First of all, these look great. When I get another FC (actually was planning on it, but the buyer of my FD just backed out, so I'll keep it and make it more badasser) I'll get a set.

But, Wow, how long does it take to get incorporated in CA?  Every inc or LLC I've formed, I got them done in a matter of hours; like 2 or 3. You guys must really like the weather out there, and think it's the only place in the states with it. Jes sayin bro. ;)
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Offline frijolee

Re: FC "Mandeville" Big Brake Kit - group buy
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2010, 03:04:40 PM »
As of today requests are being processed for LLCs filed on 8/17/10.  It was a month behind when we first filed but now it looks more like a month and a half.
 
It gets worse, the LLC/corp name reservation form specifies that you can file either in Sacrament or at the L.A. regional office of the Secretary of State.  Both Mike and I have already visited that fine establishment.   Mike sat in line for three hours before he aborted (and had a fiasco or two trying to access a restroom while waiting).  I showed up at the crack of dawn to be the first one in line only to discover that although the FORM is for both types of name reservations, only corporations can be actually be filed at the regional branches. 
 
Cali does have some good stuff (people, places, food, weather etc) but it definitely has some downsides too.
 
Short story...  As soon as the LLC is in hand we'll have a better window of guessing when business formalities will be done. 
-Joel

PS We have completed brakes in hand but it'll require the gnarly waiver and some sort of knowledge of the buyer for us to sell you some immediately.
LS2 stroker FC, Mandeville big brakes, widebody, etc
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www.roninspeedworks.com

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Re: FC "Mandeville" Big Brake Kit - group buy
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2010, 03:08:38 PM »
I'm excited about this new company, and I hope to be a customer!

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Re: FC "Mandeville" Big Brake Kit - group buy
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2010, 03:19:03 PM »
First of all, these look great. When I get another FC (actually was planning on it, but the buyer of my FD just backed out, so I'll keep it and make it more badasser) I'll get a set.

But, Wow, how long does it take to get incorporated in CA?  Every inc or LLC I've formed, I got them done in a matter of hours; like 2 or 3. You guys must really like the weather out there, and think it's the only place in the states with it. Jes sayin bro. ;)

The weather out here is AWESO.... oh yeah...

 :(

haha.

Offline Pez

Re: FC "Mandeville" Big Brake Kit - group buy
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2010, 03:28:15 PM »
It took me about 1 hour to get to the lawyer's office and let him review my paperwork, then about 1 hour to drive to the Second of State's office, pay $25 for name reservation, and $110 for filing fee. No line. The time listed included drive time. I have done it through the mail, but that usually takes a week to get everything back. Hell, I've gone through the BS of getting a liquor lisence (that included a public protest and public hearing to dispute the protest) in less time than you've waited.

I know Cali has great people and places, as I've worked all over Cali (from LA to Eureka, and everywhere inbetween), I just wouldn't be able to take the beaurocracy.

All that said, good luck with the brakes. I've already started pricing 350z rotors.
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Offline 65imp

Re: FC "Mandeville" Big Brake Kit - group buy
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2010, 01:18:42 AM »
Greg,
you just added reason 11ty billion for me to head out your way someday.  :yay:
 No, this does not give you permission to send me more pix of your personal racetrack by PM. 
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Offline Pez

Re: FC "Mandeville" Big Brake Kit - group buy
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2010, 01:38:31 AM »
How bout a vid?






ha, you all can delete my off topic posts.  I won't be offended.
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Offline jparker7

Re: FC "Mandeville" Big Brake Kit - group buy
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2010, 11:20:17 AM »
sweet set up.  Wish I had some extra cash to throw around

Offline frijolee

Re: FC "Mandeville" Big Brake Kit - group buy
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2010, 11:53:22 AM »
I'm autocrossing on the 23rd (will be first time with the wide setup) so that'll be the next chance for vids. 
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Re: FC "Mandeville" Big Brake Kit - group buy
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2010, 02:40:55 PM »
As of today requests are being processed for LLCs filed on 8/17/10.  It was a month behind when we first filed but now it looks more like a month and a half.
 
It gets worse, the LLC/corp name reservation form specifies that you can file either in Sacrament or at the L.A. regional office of the Secretary of State.  Both Mike and I have already visited that fine establishment.   Mike sat in line for three hours before he aborted (and had a fiasco or two trying to access a restroom while waiting).  I showed up at the crack of dawn to be the first one in line only to discover that although the FORM is for both types of name reservations, only corporations can be actually be filed at the regional branches. 
 
Cali does have some good stuff (people, places, food, weather etc) but it definitely has some downsides too.
 
Short story...  As soon as the LLC is in hand we'll have a better window of guessing when business formalities will be done. 
-Joel

PS We have completed brakes in hand but it'll require the gnarly waiver and some sort of knowledge of the buyer for us to sell you some immediately.


For future reference, use LegalZoom.com. It isnt expensive considering the time savings. It cost me $175 or so for my LLC and everything was done in a couple weeks and shipped to my door.
« Last Edit: October 08, 2010, 02:43:18 PM by largeorangefont »
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Re: FC "Mandeville" Big Brake Kit - group buy
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2010, 11:49:23 PM »
I'm autocrossing on the 23rd (will be first time with the wide setup) so that'll be the next chance for vids.

you're probaby gonna wanna up the sprang rates now.  widertrack  +lower wheel rate...  I'm gonna try 10/7 next I think, maybe 11/8.  we'll see.

ok back on topic.  fffff i do/dont wanna invest in these :(  dont "need" them yet, but i know that'll change eventually
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