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Offline SH4DY

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After 15 months and over 1,000 hours of build time, I got to enjoy my FD for a total of 50 miles before it went up in a ball of fire. http://www.norotors.com/index.php?topic=21978.0

Rundown of current parts/ wishlist:
Suspension/ brakes/ driveline:
De-powered/ welded steering rack
steel braided lines
929 MC
S&W Roll cage
Ronin engine mounts and pedestals
Prothane control arm bushings
Weld 15x9 Prostars (5.5" BS) w/ M/T 275 pro radials
Weld 15x9 Prostars (5.5" BS) w/ Nitto 555R 275/60/15
15x4 Prostar reps w/ MT front runners
Rossler Terminator 2.5 (TH400, reverse shift, trans brake)
B&M Pro-ratchet stealth shifter
Solid axle 8.8 w/ 3.27
Moser 28 spline c-clip axles
QA1 rear coilovers 12" spring 110#
Competition engineering 4 link and panhard bar
Ground Control front coilovers
Wilwood brake blocker for rear
Custom driveshaft loop

Motor:
LS1 out of an '98 Camaro
Ported and welded 806 heads
Honed and piston ring gaps opened up (.028-.029" top and .030-.031" second)
ARP rod bolts
ARP head bolts
GM Performance MLS headgaskets
Summit trunnion upgrade kit
Trickflow timing set
GM Performance LS7 lifters
GM Performance high flow oil pump
BTR Stage 3 turbo cam
BTR .660" spring kit
Chromoly pushrods
VSR 88/83 T4 large frame journal bearing turbo
(2) Tial 38mm wastegates
VSR BOV
VSR FMIC


Fuel:
-10 AN feed and return
FAST Fuel rails
Aeromotive 14140 Belt drive
Aeromotive FPR
MS3Pro
Deka 80lb/hr injectors
ARE drive mandrel
Aeromotive 14T Gilmer pulley

Misc:
Speedhut Tach
Autometer boost gauge
VDO Coolant and fuel level gauge
Innovate WB
Kirkey Prostreet seat
Stroud fire suppression system
Quarter master drag wing
Jpezzuti cowl hood
LED lights


Let's hope this one lasts a little longer. I present to you: project GXLS (see what I did there)
I picked up this gem from the 80's last night:

Soooo stock:

Soon...

After the fire I took some time to clean up the motor. Looks way better than before. Even made some covers for the hideous perimeter valve covers:


This car will be more a drag set-up: solid axle is in the works. Belt driven fuel pump. Cage. And yes, fire suppression system.

I'm going to try and get this track worthy before the end of the year.  :drive:



« Last Edit: May 09, 2017, 12:16:38 PM by SH4DY »

Offline piglet

Re: Lets not catch it on fire this time (FC Build)
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2016, 09:18:51 AM »
looks like a super clean rust free FC, nice find! glad to see you get right back up and at it so fast! good luck with the build!

Offline Adrenaline

Re: Lets not catch it on fire this time (FC Build)
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2016, 09:22:39 AM »
Is this one going to be a big single turbo car again? Looks clean. I like the valve cover...covers.
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Re: Lets not catch it on fire this time (FC Build)
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2016, 01:47:39 PM »
Looks like a really nice starting chassis!   Excited to see what you build.
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Re: Lets not catch it on fire this time (FC Build)
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2016, 03:51:17 PM »
Yep, the single 88mm is going back on. I'm redoing the transition on the collectors and re-doing the piping - hoping to cut down on the piping even though it really wasn't that laggy before.

 Having a hell of time trying to get the mandrel sorted out since I switched to an LS2 water pump. Will be using the ATI 917279 damper. Still on the fence about what mandrel (GZ vs ARE). I may try to use an 04 GTO alternator as they look to be self exciting and offer 140A in a smaller package than the truck units.

Ronin engine mounts and the new Improved Racing oil cooler adapter ordered.

Since the chassis is so clean I feel obligated to step up my game for the rest of it. Damn it.

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Re: Lets not catch it on fire this time (FC Build)
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2016, 04:07:10 PM »
Welcome to the cheap seats.

Offline freeskier7791

Re: Lets not catch it on fire this time (FC Build)
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2016, 08:41:32 AM »
Welcome to the cheap seats.

Was about to make a comment on how cheap FC stuff is compared to FD.

Congrats Shady!  These things look pretty mean all tubbed out, is that in the plans?

As far as alternators, if you want to spend some money check out https://www.dcpowerinc.com/ their alternators are super strong and dependable.  they have 200 amp Corvette sized ones.

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Re: Lets not catch it on fire this time (FC Build)
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2016, 09:41:42 AM »
I have a 04 GTO alternator and can confirm that it is NOT self exciting without modification.

It has a 2 wire plug and requires a signal from the ECU to excite.
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Re: Lets not catch it on fire this time (FC Build)
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2016, 09:45:20 AM »
I have a 04 GTO alternator and can confirm that it is NOT self exciting without modification.

It has a 2 wire plug and requires a signal from the ECU to excite.

Well damn it.

Made some pretty big purchases over the weekend: Aeromotive 17140 pump and MS3Pro. ATI damper and mandrel should also be here this week so I can start figuring out the belt drive for the fuel pump.
Entire drivetrain is out of the car now and came out really pretty easily. The dash on the other hand - what in the hell were they thinking? Soooo many wiring and unnecessary gizmos and bells and whistles. And pretty much all of the plastic bits have just crumbled. I thought the FD was bad...
 Also having to pull the interior - there is no way I am going to get 30 years of musty funk out. Not a bad thing I guess - lighter = faster.

I've been doing a lot of research on the solid axle set-ups and it seems pretty straight forward. I looked through a few FC build threads to get some ideas. I'm hoping I can use the existing frame rails and just move the struts/ springs in-board. We will see. I'll get some pictures up as progress is made.

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Re: Lets not catch it on fire this time (FC Build)
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2016, 10:42:59 PM »
I have the same trans and LOVE IT! Going to follow this build big time. Vary similar to me. Also if you go with the 4 link in the rear go with a 110lb spring. The 150 for me (fc, triangulated 4 link, fuel cell ,qa1 coilovers mounted inside frame rails with 110lb spring) was too stiff. Pm me if you need more pics. Some pics to hopefully help you out:






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Re: Lets not catch it on fire this time (FC Build)
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2016, 10:43:26 AM »
VERY cool! PM coming....

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Re: Lets not catch it on fire this time (FC Build)
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2016, 01:55:39 PM »
Small update:
The roturd is out!


And these goodies showed up today:


Just waiting on the mandrel for ARE and I can start mocking things up. Also got Virbrant concentric 3"-2.5" exhaust reducers to re-do the turbo manifolds. They are a work of art.

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Re: Lets not catch it on fire this time (FC Build)
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2016, 07:27:03 PM »
I like that Damper. I'm running that same one on my turbo car.
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Re: Lets not catch it on fire this time (FC Build)
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2016, 09:44:02 PM »
Helllooooo standalone!


Also picked up an 8.8" out of an '00 Mustang. 3.27 gears. Will definitely need to be cut down - it's about 5" wider.


I'm also not sure what to do about the wheel studs/ lugs. The Ford studs are a larger diameter than the Mazda units. I guess I could drill and get larger studs pressed in the front hubs? Good time to go ARP extended...

Mandrel showed up for the crank pulley and it fits so now I need to order the cogged pulley. Aeromotive recommends a 14T but ARE only makes a 15T so... Moroso makes a plastic 14T meant for water pumps and GZ makes some as well.



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Re: Lets not catch it on fire this time (FC Build)
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2016, 10:10:12 PM »
http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=407767&page=2

Good read on 4-link set-ups

Buuunch of stuff ordered: S&W roll cage, Kirkey seat, TCI flexplate, QA1 rear suspension kit and Competition Engineering 4-link. Also finally pulled the trigger on the Rossler Terminator 2.5 - 3-4 week lead time.

This thing might actually see the track this year.
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