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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #2145 on: November 07, 2019, 11:01:27 PM »
So many wires. How did you get to 120? I'm at 60 or so. VVT and o2's?

I found the below that can be bulkhead mounted. Only sealed behind the pin. Multi sized pins up to 4x40amp pins.

https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/571-1-1823498-1
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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #2146 on: November 08, 2019, 07:38:31 AM »
VVT and sensors mostly.    My O2 setup is only 4 wires total for 2x sensors because of the CAN bus.    Just a ton of other crap, haha.
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1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...  project car
2016 BMW 428i xDrive Gran Coupe - Completely stock...ish

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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #2147 on: November 08, 2019, 10:02:26 AM »
So many wires. How did you get to 120? I'm at 60 or so. VVT and o2's?

I found the below that can be bulkhead mounted. Only sealed behind the pin. Multi sized pins up to 4x40amp pins.

https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/571-1-1823498-1

Those work pretty good, I was thinking about getting some, but they can be hard to actuate if they get dirty, we actually sell a boot to protect the slide from dust
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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #2148 on: November 26, 2019, 01:29:43 PM »
So, for the Haltech, here's what I'm going to be adding in addition to the ECU (Haltech parts):

2x Haltech 12 port IO CANbus expanders -> these add a bunch more IO capability to the box.  Unfortunately the Haltech is a very compact box and has limited IO and my multiple cam VVT, etc eats up a lot of inputs and outputs, so I need this.
1x Haltech 2 port CANbus Wideband (LSU 4.9) -> No built in wideband on this box.    It's actually kind of nice as this is a sealed box and goes under the hood, so I need less wires to run dual channel wideband, so sorta bonus there.
2x Haltech DTM plug fluid temp sensors -> going to these for oil temp and water temp, these have DTM for my new harness
2x Haltech DTM air temp sensors -> IAT and turbo outlet temp -> these have DTM for my new harness
1x Haltech CANbus hub -> this was fairly cheap and makes for nice layout for the CAN stuff for the Haltech systems under the dash

That should fill out my Haltech parts, and then it's just wiring harness bits (just...   that shit is pricey) and then I can get assembling the new setup once I get my car back (or the weather breaks and I can tolerate parking my daily outside)
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1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...  project car
2016 BMW 428i xDrive Gran Coupe - Completely stock...ish

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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #2149 on: November 28, 2019, 09:37:09 AM »
Got the Haltech goodies ordered up through a local guy that got me a screaming deal.    Ordered 2x new Speedhut gauges (Black Friday sale!);  new water temp (going to a stepper motor gauge with a 2 wire sensor) and oil pressure (stepper motor + transducer sender).

Waiting to see if the wiring guys have any black Friday deals...
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1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...  project car
2016 BMW 428i xDrive Gran Coupe - Completely stock...ish

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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #2150 on: November 30, 2019, 02:44:19 PM »
Ordered up my wiring harness parts and gauges.   That exhausts the car fund for a minute, hah.
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1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...  project car
2016 BMW 428i xDrive Gran Coupe - Completely stock...ish

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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #2151 on: November 30, 2019, 04:44:08 PM »
you on a roll bro

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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #2152 on: December 01, 2019, 06:43:02 PM »
Hah, yeah, I suppose so.

For those curious, here's the plan for the wiring setup.   I am using:

M22759/32 Wire (Tezfel thin insulation)
22 gauge white for most of the harness
22 gauge green/gray/violet for sensor power/ground/signal
18 gauge black/red/green/violet for injectors/coils/assorted higher amp connections
22 gauge 2 and 3 wire shielded wire for front wheel sensors, cam, crank and knock sensors
Raychem DR25 equivalent (Prowire USA house brand) heat shrink
Raychem SCL adhesive shrink for sealing various transitions
Various Raychem boots for connectors
Deutsch DTM 4/6/8 for sub harness transactions
Deutsch Autosport for gauge sub harness
Deutsch DTM 2/3 port for sensors
Mil-spec 55 and 61 pin bulkheads for FW pass through

I'm breaking it all up into sub harness for most things like this:

Driver main harness ->
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Driver front sensors (oil pressure, oil temp, IAT, radiator pressure, front left wheel speed)
Driver cam control
Passenger injectors
Passenger Coils
Driver under intake sensors (cam sensors, knock sensors)
Transmission extension harness
Alternator extension harness
Boost control extension harness
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Passenger main harness ->
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Passenger front sensors (turbo outlet temp, fuel pressure, front right wheel speed)
AC Trinary Switch
AC compressor extension harness
Passenger cam control
Driver injectors
Driver coils
Passenger under intake sensors (cam sensors, ECT, crank sensor)

Still finishing out a few things, but that's the general gist of it.   I'm planning on doing concentric twist everywhere (at least the big sections anyway) and 100% sealing the main section.   After thinking about it, I'm NOT going to pot most of the Ford sensors (other than cam/crank/knock), but will use subharnesses to break them out instead, to keep the main harness fully sealed so that I can re-build them if I ever tear one up.   It also means for service I can just pop off sub harnesses if I need to get at one area without pulling whole harnesses off.

I'll document the process and share my documentation as I go.  :)
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1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...  project car
2016 BMW 428i xDrive Gran Coupe - Completely stock...ish

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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #2153 on: December 15, 2019, 03:48:20 PM »
Went to PRI over the weekend and talked to a few companies.

Haltech guys were super helpful on both my project and the 2JZ Camaro project;   got a couple contacts to talk to for questions, and they were just generally really helpful and enthusiastic.   I may get one of their IC7 units for my car at some point.

I also met these guys:

https://www.s1sequential.com/

I really want one...  haha.
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...  project car
2016 BMW 428i xDrive Gran Coupe - Completely stock...ish

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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #2154 on: December 16, 2019, 08:52:09 PM »
Went to PRI over the weekend and talked to a few companies.

Haltech guys were super helpful on both my project and the 2JZ Camaro project;   got a couple contacts to talk to for questions, and they were just generally really helpful and enthusiastic.   I may get one of their IC7 units for my car at some point.

I also met these guys:

https://www.s1sequential.com/

I really want one...  haha.

I saw those a couple years ago.
Neat idea, but I wonder if it really allows for faster shifting, as the synchro's and stock sliders are still in ther transmission, whereas a true sequential box has dog-rings and no synchros.
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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #2155 on: December 17, 2019, 09:54:09 AM »
I donít know that itís a massive improvement over my MGW, really.   It looks like a ton of fun though!  LOL
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1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...  project car
2016 BMW 428i xDrive Gran Coupe - Completely stock...ish

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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #2156 on: December 17, 2019, 11:45:15 AM »
I guess I'm all in on this Haltech stuff...    got a nice unexpected bonus at work, so after I got some Xmas stuff for the family, I snagged a Haltech IC7 display.   Going to put it on the dash in the center where the stereo would go in a factory car.    Their configuration options are a little limited right now, but the price is fantastic (it's roughly half the price of an AEM) and they're supposed to be adding features on a regular basis, per their guys I talked to at PRI.

I'll design/3D print a mount to adapt it to the dash nicely.  :)

Here's the unit:  https://www.haltech.com/haltech-ic-7-display-dash-a-new-way-of-seeing-things/
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1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...  project car
2016 BMW 428i xDrive Gran Coupe - Completely stock...ish

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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #2157 on: December 20, 2019, 04:20:01 PM »
Wiring supplies, ECU and new dash:



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1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...  project car
2016 BMW 428i xDrive Gran Coupe - Completely stock...ish

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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #2158 on: December 20, 2019, 10:12:22 PM »
ďStand alone engine management, what a nice way to spend $10,000Ē.


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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #2159 on: December 20, 2019, 10:18:08 PM »
Thatís not far off...
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...  project car
2016 BMW 428i xDrive Gran Coupe - Completely stock...ish