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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #1920 on: May 13, 2019, 11:22:11 AM »
I actually already designed and prototyped a TB adapter plate to put a GM DBW throttle body on the Coyote, which means I can use cheap, readily available cable controlled GM LS style 90MM TBs on it, instead of 500 dollar Coyote cable adapted throttle bodies, so that is an option.

The issue I had with MS3 was when I last reached out to them about the Coyote (2 years ago) they basically went "well, some guy on a forum has done one and it mostly works" and I didn't feel like spending 10 months as a guinea pig trying to get the cam sensors working.   I also very much prefer to have DBW, but that's not an absolute deal breaker.    My other concern has been trying to develop my own cam timing curves for the VVT as that seems like a very, very long time on the dyno.    Maybe I can reverse engineer them from the AEM or other ECUs that reverse engineered them from the Ford control pack though.

Have you looked at LinkECU and ECUmaster? But they may be in the same boat as a MS3Pro. 

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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #1921 on: May 13, 2019, 02:41:55 PM »
ECUMaster doesn't have 8 injector outputs and running bank/bank is so 2002.    I've not looked at Link, honestly.
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1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...  project car
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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #1922 on: May 13, 2019, 06:05:01 PM »
Looked into it and the Link is pretty neat, but the Coyote documentation is minimal.     I think Haltech and MoTeC are my best options outside of AEM.    I called them today, they did get my ECU a week ago.   They didn't bother to update the ticket or let me know, or look at the ECU, but at least now I know USPS didn't lose it/misdeliver it, so that's something.

Right now I'm looking at selling the AEM, buying a Haltech Elite 2500/WB2 and new pins/harness for under the hood and rebuilding all of it.   There are a few things I'd like to do very slightly differently if starting over, and the out of pocket to redo that stuff is only about 250 dollars, which isn't bad at all really.     It'll make a slightly nicer setup under the hood, also.   Plus It should really only take a weekend to redo it, which isn't all that bad.
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...  project car
2016 BMW 428i xDrive Gran Coupe - Completely stock...ish

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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #1923 on: May 14, 2019, 10:53:41 AM »
Looked into it and the Link is pretty neat, but the Coyote documentation is minimal.     I think Haltech and MoTeC are my best options outside of AEM.    I called them today, they did get my ECU a week ago.   They didn't bother to update the ticket or let me know, or look at the ECU, but at least now I know USPS didn't lose it/misdeliver it, so that's something.

Right now I'm looking at selling the AEM, buying a Haltech Elite 2500/WB2 and new pins/harness for under the hood and rebuilding all of it.   There are a few things I'd like to do very slightly differently if starting over, and the out of pocket to redo that stuff is only about 250 dollars, which isn't bad at all really.     It'll make a slightly nicer setup under the hood, also.   Plus It should really only take a weekend to redo it, which isn't all that bad.

Haltech and MoTec are 2 of the best out there

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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #1924 on: May 15, 2019, 11:34:16 AM »
So @Jordan Innovations hit up AEM on my behalf and got some stuff moving and I'm starting to feel a little more comfortable with them, so -hopefully- my issues with the ECUs are coming to an end and I can keep going with AEM instead of putting a ton of work into restarting with another vendor.   They're shipping me a brand new ECU which should be here Monday, so my intention will be to test with that next week.

I did buy a new engine harness and some pins just because I still want to clean up/improve a few things, and I'm going to set it up for the ability to use a cable throttle in the future "just in case" as well as a few other small tweaks that are easy enough to do. 
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...  project car
2016 BMW 428i xDrive Gran Coupe - Completely stock...ish

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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #1925 on: May 15, 2019, 12:29:28 PM »
That’s pretty solid!

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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #1926 on: May 15, 2019, 03:11:08 PM »
Yeah, their Tech Support is talking to me now, which is as a concept helpful.   Next step is to get them to believe I'm not a moron.
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...  project car
2016 BMW 428i xDrive Gran Coupe - Completely stock...ish

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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #1927 on: May 15, 2019, 04:57:30 PM »
Okay, I think they believe me (mostly).   Apparently my ECU was a very, very early model and they couldn't even flash their diagnostic firmware on it.   That may explain why I had weird behavior when I tried to get it to upgrade firmware as well.  It took forever to get it to work when I put the Coyote firmware on it, and I couldn't get it to re-install the default config/firmware when I was troubleshooting it.   I assumed I was doing something wrong or it was just fussy, but perhaps that wasn't the case after all.
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...  project car
2016 BMW 428i xDrive Gran Coupe - Completely stock...ish

Offline Cobranut

Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #1928 on: May 15, 2019, 06:49:36 PM »
Glad to hear you're finally getting some support.   :yay:
I'm certain that you'll get this sorted out.
Good luck.
1995 FD, 7.0 Liter stroked LS3, T56, 8.8, Samberg kit.

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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #1929 on: May 15, 2019, 07:34:40 PM »
I bet they get a lot of morons that call so it is probably more that they think you’re a moron until you prove different. Almost like “hi this is Blake, I want to start by saying  I’m not a moron”.

Glad to hear you are getting somewhere and I feal like them sending you a new unit is pretty solid.

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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #1930 on: May 16, 2019, 08:48:31 AM »
Thanks guys.   I know I get whiny on this ECU stuff, but it just seems like a neverending bad experience with most vendors;   BS3 and ProEFI were both a real PITA to deal with, and my hope was that AEM would be different.   The communications issues were problematic, but now that they are communicating they are very helpful and seem to genuinely care about helping/being a good vendor, which is more than I can say for the other companies I've dealt with.   I'm happy to give a company a second chance when they deserve it, and so far it looks like maybe I just slipped through the cracks on my initial communications.    Anywho, here's hoping.  :)

I did spend a few hours last night and got my headliner put in.  It's a TMI 1 piece vinyl unit and the fitment is pretty good.   Install wasn't bad either.   There are a couple places where the transitions from headliner to A and C pillar trims are just "eh" but honestly it's only even visible if you put your face 6" from it, so it's just me being overly fussy.    The headroom is great and the overall look is very nice.    Assuming my upholsterer comes through on their word and gets my seat done this week, I'll have a basically complete interior!
Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...  project car
2016 BMW 428i xDrive Gran Coupe - Completely stock...ish

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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #1931 on: May 19, 2019, 03:38:33 PM »
Progress!   Pictures!   Excitement!

TMI Headliner in place:



Front interior mostly completed:



Rear seats:



Seats in, interior mostly complete!

Blake MF'ing McBride
1988 Mazda RX7 - Turbo LS1/T56/ProEFI/8.8/Not Slow...   sold.
1965 Mustang Coupe - TT Coyote, TR6060, modern brakes/suspension...  project car
2016 BMW 428i xDrive Gran Coupe - Completely stock...ish

Offline Cobranut

Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #1932 on: May 19, 2019, 04:54:15 PM »
Damn, that looks NICE!!!   8)
1995 FD, 7.0 Liter stroked LS3, T56, 8.8, Samberg kit.

Offline wickedrx7

Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #1933 on: May 19, 2019, 05:56:44 PM »
That looks fantastic!  Nice work.

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Re: Blake's 1965 Mustang Project
« Reply #1934 on: May 19, 2019, 07:20:40 PM »
Blake that interior looks bad ass bro