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Title: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: frijolee on August 26, 2011, 07:05:53 PM
FYI Ronin Speedworks has been in discussions with Pez Performance for a while about having Ronin produce and sell  LSx FC "Pez mounts."
 
Greg and I had talked through a few different permutations of a possible alliance structure between the companies.  However, given some of the production headaches Greg's been experiencing with the mounts we eventually agreed to have Ronin purchase the intellectual property for the mounts outright.

We're making a few very minor tweaks to the mounting but we should have these back to readily available status within a few weeks.

The bonus that I've hinted to a few times is that Ronin is also making a trans mount which will finally let user route their exhaust under the mount with relative ease (a huge advantage from both an exhaust packaging and maintenance perspective).  We think will be better than any other trans mount option on the market. 

The trans mount has been designed, we've bought all the materials, and we're scheduled to build a first article a week from now.  We're using LargeOrangeFont's car as the test platform as he's relatively local, in the right stage of his project, and has a nice straight chassis for us to use.

Much more info coming soon (and pictures obviously)   Pricing for the full kit is TBD but should should be similar to existing options on the market.  Normally we prefer to announce our projects when we already have first article parts in hand but but I thought you guys might appreciate a heads up sooner rather than later to aid in planning your projects.

Regards,
Joel Payne

(for Ronin Speedworks, LLC)

Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: ALLslowNOshow on August 26, 2011, 07:22:52 PM
Cool beans, so are you guys also gonna be making Pez's C5/6 pedestal replicas?

(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x272/eat-pez/FC%20mounts/IMG_0715.jpg)
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: Rogue Status on August 26, 2011, 10:46:38 PM
In for engine and trans mounts, let me know when to send funds!
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: WannaBeFast on August 27, 2011, 01:20:31 AM
Would this crossmember fit a 200R4?
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: digitalsolo on August 27, 2011, 12:28:59 PM
My 2004r is mounted with the kit from my T56, so I'd expect so.   :)
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: frijolee on September 12, 2011, 03:32:15 PM
In for engine and trans mounts, let me know when to send funds!

Thanks, glad to see folks are excited about this.  We're let you know as soon as the first sets are done.

A little update:

The Pez motor mount design has been optomized.  There were no significant changes but we made overhangs of material match on each side and a few other tweaks.  We're just about ready to go out for the water jet order on that.  We will be making replica C5 stand-offs so we can offer folks one-stop-shopping.  However, we're not using Pez's design because A) we haven't heard back on our last few phone calls, and B) because we'll be making some changes there as well.

We also had a good work session a week ago on the tranny mount that will finally allow exhaust routing underneath the mount.  We were hoping to have a first article at the end of that day but we ran across a few changes we wanted to make...   The key finding was that to optomize packaging, strength, and weight, we really wanted to use a bent tubular design (doesn't hurt that we think it's going to be sexy as all hell to boot).  We did get a detailed CAD study put together, nailed down the hardware interfaces, and helped our fabricator buy a wicked tubing bender that's in route to California as we speak...   :D

Question for the forum:
We're using dedicated mount points on each side of the trans tunnel that install inside the vehicle and spread out the load.  We had planned to use a couple extra bolts to located the interior bits and going forward our users would only ever interface with the equipment from below.  However, the more I think about it the more the more I'm tempted to have users simply epoxy the interior pieces in place.  They're only used to locate welded nuts on the inside and the plates effectively sandwich the trans tunnel.  The epoxy should be plenty to keep it from moving and users could always drill their own through bolts if desired.  Thoughts?
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: digitalsolo on September 12, 2011, 04:23:25 PM
As long as it still allows it to be a one man job, I don't see any issues with epoxy.
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: andrewb70 on September 14, 2011, 03:41:19 PM
I see no issue with using epoxy to hold the plate on the inside.

Andrew
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: frijolee on September 14, 2011, 05:37:19 PM
Thanks for the validation fellas.
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: AndreS on September 22, 2011, 01:50:09 AM

I had a thought for you on the trans mount....  :wave:
Remove the single mount under the tailshaft.  Replace it with a 1/4" thick steel bar(now bolted to the tailshaft directly) that can curve up around the sides of the tailshaft housing if needed.  That bar goes to two small/thin motor mounts from a  late 60's dodge dart v8 (like this one: https://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx?R=BK_6021130_0329867337 (https://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/CatalogItemDetail.aspx?R=BK_6021130_0329867337))  These are then hung from a welded angle mount that's bolted(sandwiched) to the tunnel... some bolt holes should be slotted to allow some movement & ease the install.
In the diagram below- the trans is black, green would be another brand trans mount, red this mount idea, orange motor mounts linked above, blue being the tunnel, and light blue the bolts...  everything is relative and obviously not to scale.... but you get the basic idea.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m111/AndreS123_03/th_transmountideas.jpg) (http://s102.photobucket.com/albums/m111/AndreS123_03/?action=view&current=transmountideas.jpg)


What I'm asking is this: Do we need one mount point or can we do it with two?  Is it required to be under the transmission tailshaft? If something like that is possible, it's out of the way, relatively simple,  and gives more space for exhaust... 
They also have interlocking motor mounts similar to the one listed above, if there's any worry of them failing.
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: frijolee on September 22, 2011, 06:44:33 AM
Andre, you're correct that the compliance can be the ends of a mount rather than the tail stock.  The only real challenge to your desing is that the transmission tunnel isn't remotely symmetric and I think you'd find that having any real mount thickness on the driver's side of the trans tunnel wall will eat into exhaust space. 

Honestly, I can't wait to get the first article done done done so we can show pictures.  I'm excited enough about this route that I may end up reworking my entire exhaust just so I can run it.
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: frijolee on September 25, 2011, 10:29:11 AM
Cool beans, so are you guys also gonna be making Pez's C5/6 pedestal replicas?

(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x272/eat-pez/FC%20mounts/IMG_0715.jpg)

Redesign on the vette standoffs is done...  Just need to triple check the final measurements when I get home (I'm writing from a hotel in the Netherlands at the moment).  These took a while to figure out since I haven't played with sheet metal in a while: bending losses on radii etc.  That said, having the side plates cut with some precision will help hold a very tight tolerance on the position of parts. 

Folks can still run OEM c5 standoffs if they prefer but I'm kinda proud of the design on these.

(https://sites.google.com/site/frijoleels1fc/RoninC5standoff.jpg)

-Joel
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: willcoop on September 25, 2011, 09:37:54 PM
Joel those vette stand offs look really nice. Is that solid works, I have never used the sheet metal function but it looks like very useful.
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: frijolee on October 04, 2011, 07:23:45 PM
Yes, we use quite a bit of Solidworks.  Sheet metal is less intuitive than some of their stuff.  I ended up doing quite a bit of math to validate the bend allowances on the flat pattern but I'm happy with the way it came out.

Here's the final version of the vette standoff, this has now been 100% dimensionally verified.  I also added a bit of curvature for extra header clearance.

(https://sites.google.com/site/frijoleels1fc/RoninC5standofffinal.jpg)

We finally went out for a big piece part cutting order we've had in works for a while, both for the above and our version of the Pez mounts, plus restocking tow hooks, diff kits, etc etc etc. 

As to the trans mount, our first article is well under way.   A couple teaser pics follow so folks know we haven't been slacking off...  Here was the "paper doll" dimensional study.

(https://sites.google.com/site/frijoleels1fc/IMG_2160-editCustom.jpg)

The key finding from the above was that we really wanted to make this a bent tubular structure.

That eventually lead us to make these: (https://sites.google.com/site/frijoleels1fc/CIMG3188Custom.JPG)

By the way, back to back "s-bends" with no straight in between are hard...  That took quite a bit of figuring out to do right, but it was the only way to get the exhaust clearances we wanted.

Getting close now...
-Joel

Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: ALLslowNOshow on October 04, 2011, 09:59:24 PM
You're my hero Joel.
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: TheTransporter88 on October 05, 2011, 09:47:34 AM
(http://alltheragefaces.com/img/faces/png/sweet-jesus.png)

sweet jesus..... i want!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: frijolee on October 06, 2011, 11:46:40 AM
First article trans mount is done.  This attaches to a pair of internal plates (not shown) that sandwhich the trans tunnel.

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a61/couger67/DSC00674.jpg)

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a61/couger67/DSC00673.jpg)

Notice how the trans tunnel is too streep on one side to let you back hardware out?  We'll use one long bolt to solve that...  It's on the passenger side where you have more lateral clearance for the exhaust.

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a61/couger67/DSC00672.jpg)

Plates for engine mounts are being cut now so we should be only a couple weeks from releasing these.

Special thanks to LOF for helping with the test car and to v8-rx7 for the fab work.

-Joel
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: theantirotor on October 06, 2011, 12:49:22 PM
that looks great.  nice work
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: mattster03 on October 06, 2011, 12:54:17 PM
Loving the diff brace Joel!  I've got a buddy that's just starting an FC LS1/T56 swap... what's the ETA of availability for these parts?  Are you looking for a test fitter?
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: theantirotor on October 06, 2011, 12:59:24 PM
ha me too.  i could put one of those in a car in less than a month.  i'd be a tester.  :)
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: largeorangefont on October 06, 2011, 05:27:07 PM
Guys, I was able to hold this piece in my hand today, and it is killer. It looks even better than the pictures. By the looks of it there is enough room to run a dual 3 inch exhaust with no impact to ground clearance. You could probably do 3.5 if you really wanted to.

It should be on my car in a day or so, and I will have my exhaust done in a couple weeks.
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: josh18_2k on October 06, 2011, 05:58:04 PM
Cost/ETA??  i'm redoing my exhaust VERY soon... rather not reuse the garbage hinson crossmember

Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: theantirotor on October 06, 2011, 06:25:33 PM
Will this work with multiple trans such as 4l60e/t56?

does it fit both hard tops and verts?


on my dads 4l60e vert the trans mount sucks because neither hinson or grannys normal trans mounts will fit...
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: DeaconBlue on October 06, 2011, 09:21:49 PM
I just brought home a 700 mile TR-6060 from a 2010 Camaro today.  I need to start looking at the tail section differences between it and the F-body T56.  I sure like the look of that mount Joel and would love to use it.  Does it use the stock bolt holes in the manual trany tunnel or not?  Maybe once Ashley posts some picture I will understand better  :)
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: theantirotor on October 06, 2011, 09:27:16 PM
from what he said i believe you drill holes and use backing plates against the tunnel inside the car.
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: largeorangefont on October 06, 2011, 09:32:16 PM
from what he said i believe you drill holes and use backing plates against the tunnel inside the car.

Yes you have to drill some new holes, but it is a straightforward procedure, and will be easily serviceable.  Joel will have it all documented here shortly once the interior plates are finished and we have it in the car.
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: theantirotor on October 06, 2011, 09:34:31 PM
from what he said i believe you drill holes and use backing plates against the tunnel inside the car.

Yes you have to drill some new holes, but it is a straightforward procedure, and will be easily serviceable.  Joel will have it all documented here shortly once the interior plates are finished and we have it in the car.

I have zero problems with drilling new holes to install a superior product.
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: DeaconBlue on October 06, 2011, 10:25:53 PM
Okay - thanks.


Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: V8-rx7 on October 10, 2011, 08:01:35 PM
I finally got some pictures of the mount installed on LOF's car. The fit on this thing is really sweet and you can run dual 3" exhaust under it no problem, overall I am really happy with how it came out.

I am sure Joel will keep you guys posted with an actual release date, but it should be soon.

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a61/couger67/Large%20Orange%20Fonts%20Ls1%20FC/DSC00685.jpg)

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a61/couger67/Large%20Orange%20Fonts%20Ls1%20FC/DSC00686.jpg)

Check out the exhaust clearance...... That is a piece of 3" tube for reference.

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a61/couger67/Large%20Orange%20Fonts%20Ls1%20FC/DSC00690.jpg)

(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a61/couger67/Large%20Orange%20Fonts%20Ls1%20FC/DSC00691.jpg)
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: frijolee on October 10, 2011, 09:56:52 PM
Hey Anthony...

I have a couple of tweaks I want to make to how the inside plates ended up so I removed a few pictures in the above (hope you don't mind).  It's probably fine but I just didn't want to set false expectations.

That said, the 3" tube shots really give you a better picture of the ground clearance.  I like the comparison to the frame rail in the background on the last shot.

-Joel
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: theantirotor on October 11, 2011, 10:36:11 PM
when will these trans mounts be available?  i want 2 of them!
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: NOROTOR on October 11, 2011, 11:02:18 PM
I will also be purchasing a set.

Jesse
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: frijolee on October 12, 2011, 01:36:51 AM
I think we can target early November.  We want to have several parts ready for SevenStock on October 29th (the So Cal celebration of all things rotary).   ;)
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: josh18_2k on October 12, 2011, 12:35:45 PM
Count me in for a trans mount.  Just as long as it's before spring anyway
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: Rion_The_Lion on October 13, 2011, 11:04:36 AM
Put me on the list for engine mounts and tranny mount
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: Sho Amo on October 17, 2011, 12:44:06 PM
Ill be getting engine and trans mounts from you as well. I would rather support forums members.


Any ideas on pricing yet?
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: Nick Oc on October 17, 2011, 08:32:23 PM
So will you be selling the engine mounts now? The lower one that bolt to the car?
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: frijolee on October 17, 2011, 11:12:54 PM
So will you be selling the engine mounts now? The lower one that bolt to the car?

Yes...  On the topside you can either run our version of the stand offs or the factory c5 vette parts.
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: Track_FC on October 18, 2011, 12:10:36 AM
Anxiously awaiting the release of these!
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: Nick Oc on October 18, 2011, 08:35:03 AM
Will the price be comparable to the Pez mounts?
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: frijolee on October 18, 2011, 11:47:08 AM
These are the Pez mounts (the former iteration thereof is no longer available), so yes the price will be comparable to Pez mounts.   ;)

To actually answer your question, I need to get the other two ronin guys together so we can make sure we're in agreement on the numbers.  It shouldn't be vastly different that what's been out there from competitors to date.
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: Nick Oc on October 18, 2011, 01:35:49 PM
Ok good. I'll be in line to purchase a set.
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: frijolee on October 18, 2011, 07:30:31 PM
We're ready to start taking orders   :yay:

PRICEPOINT:

Kit pricing:
[Edit 1-6-12:  see http://www.roninspeedworks.com/powertrain/ (http://www.roninspeedworks.com/powertrain/)]

Tax is presently 7.75% (if in California only)

Most pieces ship via $20 flat rate shipping and handling.  However, so of the itemized parts can be shipped cheaper.

The minor differences in the above pricing vs what Pez had are due to changes we made (optomized fit, better steel, better welding) as well as the fact we plan to powdercoat all our pieces.  They'll come black by default but feel free to inquire if you want custom colors. 

We'll send these in the order payments are received and we're currently estimating ~two weeks.  Paypal to roninspeedworks@gmail.com 

Note: I'll post pretty pictures up top before the first production parts ship.
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: DeaconBlue on October 18, 2011, 11:27:30 PM
Very nice.  I wonder how many of Joel's parts will end up on my car, let's see there are the front brakes, the 8.8 Ford IRS mount kit, the engine and trany mounts...
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: sciff5 on October 18, 2011, 11:38:33 PM
Really looking forward to more info on the explorer rear end option

Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: Track_FC on October 19, 2011, 01:19:33 AM
Great news! Thanks for the PM update!
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: theantirotor on October 19, 2011, 10:26:00 AM
Paypal sent for 2 trans mounts.
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: spadanko on October 19, 2011, 11:01:17 AM
how much for shipping to canada? id want a full kit. thanks
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: frijolee on October 19, 2011, 02:39:46 PM
how much for shipping to canada? id want a full kit. thanks

It would be $40 to Canada using the same USPS flat rate service, however, I'm not sure I'd be able to use the normal delivery confirmation and insurance add ons that we usually do.  That said, I have to assume shipping to Canada is fairly low risk.  If there were customs or other duty charges that would be on you as well.
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: mattster03 on October 19, 2011, 06:11:32 PM
Very nice... great pricing, I think they are going to sell well.  We have seen pictures here and there, but it would be awesome if you posted one up of all of the finished/powdercoated parts that would be included with the complete kit;  I need something to drool over  :)
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: spadanko on October 19, 2011, 10:02:17 PM
how much for shipping to canada? id want a full kit. thanks

It would be $40 to Canada using the same USPS flat rate service, however, I'm not sure I'd be able to use the normal delivery confirmation and insurance add ons that we usually do.  That said, I have to assume shipping to Canada is fairly low risk.  If there were customs or other duty charges that would be on you as well.

Ok sounds good to me, payment will be sent shortly.
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: EvanFitch on October 27, 2011, 10:37:25 PM
Posting this here too. Can you use the Hinson or Grannies driveshaft with the pez mounts?
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: frijolee on October 28, 2011, 04:26:25 PM
Hinson mounts the motor 5/8" further forward than Granny (at least Granny's on rear holes).

Measuring one way the Ronin/Pez mounts are 1/16" further back than Granny's (again assuming rear holes).  Measuring another way and Pez mounts are 3/8" further back.  There's a tolerance but I can't tell you exactly where.  As such, Hinson and Grannie's driveshafts SHOULD be different and Granny's driveshaft is likely to work, Hinson's is likely too long.

However, for the Ronin/Pez mounts we recommend using a c4 vette driveshaft. 
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: EvanFitch on October 28, 2011, 04:59:26 PM
Awesome. What all needs to be done to make it work with a T56 to TII diff?

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: frijolee on October 28, 2011, 06:19:47 PM
Just add a slip yoke at one end and the t2 end flange at the other.  Any capable DS shop should be able to get you the correct u-joints to mate up the three main pieces and then balance them.

Part numbers are in my build thread if you need them (it's a sticky).

-Joel
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: lm38330 on November 01, 2011, 12:58:12 AM
I know the trans mount is for a T56,but I'm thinking bout going auto on my next project.

Will this trans mount work for an auto?(I.e 700R4,th350/400,or 4lL60E?)

Thanks in advance.

PS
Is Steve or Ronin SW still doing harness mods?

Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: Brismo7 on November 01, 2011, 02:34:20 PM
I know the trans mount is for a T56,but I'm thinking bout going auto on my next project.

Will this trans mount work for an auto?(I.e 700R4,th350/400,or 4lL60E?)

Thanks in advance.

PS
Is Steve or Ronin SW still doing harness mods?

Looks like it should fit, but we'll need to do a test fitment to be 100% sure.
http://msperformanceonline.com/31108r.html (http://msperformanceonline.com/31108r.html)
Quote
Looks like the Energy Suspension polyurethane Transmission Mount fits 4L60E, 4L60, T-56 and 700R4 transmissions.

And yes, I still modify the Ls1 harnesses.
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: lm38330 on November 01, 2011, 06:53:08 PM
Thanks for response Steve.i haven't quite decided what trans I'll be going with but it's gonna be  an auto.
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: Sho Amo on November 12, 2011, 07:55:10 PM
Does anyone have any installed pictures? You said there was no extra charge for a different color powder coat correct?
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: frijolee on November 15, 2011, 04:28:02 PM
Does anyone have any installed pictures? You said there was no extra charge for a different color powder coat correct?

We have installed pics of the trans mount above.  We're finishing up our first batch of engine mounts and pedistals now so no, no one is going to have installed pictures of those yet.  That said, if you've seen the version Pez started with it gives you the general idea.  The pedistals are dimensionally identical to the c5 vette part.

Powder coat we do in batches.  If you want red or black we've switched that up before at no extra charge.  That said, sometimes you'll have to wait a little bit for another batch to get done.  We're looking at keeping one default color in stock for most products.  (IE wing mounts are black, tow hooks in red, etc).  If you want something truly custom (IE metallica lime green), we'd probably charge you something to cover the extra powder purchase and effort involved.  That said, it would be on a case by case basis depending on what we're doing so contact myself or 65imp (Mike) and we'll get you a number.

We do put in a lot of effort to assist with special requests.
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: frijolee on November 28, 2011, 02:56:07 PM
Just thought you guys might like a quick shot of our progress from the holidays.

All orders placed to date are going out now.

(https://sites.google.com/site/frijoleels1fc/DSC_0151Custom.JPG)

We also took a stack of glamour shots so we should have everything up on our site soon.

Regards,
Joel
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: JB750il on December 01, 2011, 09:12:19 AM
I think i may have to pick up the trans mount.
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: josh18_2k on December 01, 2011, 01:41:25 PM
do you know how much further back your setup is vs hinson mounts?  im a little worried about my driveshaft.. (also hinson)

EDIT:  herp derp search..  so hinson shaft is 'likely' too long..  anyone found out the hard way yet?  and while we're at it, is there any difference betwen auto/6spd c4 shaft?  my friend is solstice swapping a C4 Z51 and has a shaft for me.


Also... ordered!  :D
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: theantirotor on December 01, 2011, 06:30:01 PM
i hadnt seen the pictures.  the parts look great.
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: mattster03 on December 01, 2011, 07:17:40 PM
Looks great... what are the pieces in the top left of the picture.  Also, I didn't notice the slick method for putting bolting through the main tube on the trans mount... props on the clever design.
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: largeorangefont on December 01, 2011, 09:26:54 PM
Looks great... what are the pieces in the top left of the picture.  Also, I didn't notice the slick method for putting bolting through the main tube on the trans mount... props on the clever design.

I think I get to take credit for that one :P
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: frijolee on December 01, 2011, 11:57:06 PM
Thanks for the compliments y' all. 

Top left parts in the picture above are fc wing mounts.

Hinson's drive shaft is likely too long but I'm not 100% positive as a great deal depends on how much margin thet left.

Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: Rogue Status on December 27, 2011, 03:32:38 PM
Waiting on a bonus from work then I will be placing an order.  Been a long time coming, cant wait to get the engine in the car finally!
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: frijolee on January 09, 2012, 12:49:41 PM
As you may or may not have seen we have a new version of our website!
www.roninspeedworks.com (http://www.roninspeedworks.com)

All mounting kit info and variations you can purchase are now online so you can order there.  We're attempting to keep these kits in stock and we always ship in the order payments are recieved.  However, if you happen to catch us between batches it can take us a couple weeks (IE we're working on the next round of trans mounts now).

You can still pay via paypal, but we now have our own credit card processing up and running as well via Authorize.net.

I should also mention that in launching the new site we went through and checked our pricing on all products.  A few things went down (hoods), but a few needed to increase.  In the case of the motor mounting goods we dropped pricing on the poly trans isolator, but had to increase it on the pedestals.  On net this drove the overall full kit (which Mike titled SUPREME) from $549 to $569.

If you place an order THIS week (cutoff will be 6 pm Saturday, CA time) we'll honor the old pricing for you.   Order through the site and the coupon code will be "off_the_fence"   8)
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: cruzinbill on January 11, 2012, 09:49:49 AM
sorry i looked a few times now, but what driveshaft is needed to be used with your kit?
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: frijolee on January 11, 2012, 11:50:08 AM
Assuming a factory rear end and a t56 we recommend a c4 driveshaft with the slip yoke and Mazda flange (and reputable drive shaft shop can supply the needed u-joints to let this work).  If you switch to the Ronin 8.8 diff kit it'll need to be custom.
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: jasonv31 on January 11, 2012, 12:27:08 PM
I know this may be a noob question but will this mount fit the vert ?  I saw it was asked earlier but I didn't see a answer.  Sweet mount btw!  Thanks :-)
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: frijolee on January 11, 2012, 01:38:32 PM
Jason,

Motors mounts should be fine with a Vert...  For the trans mount, we believe so but I don't know if the first gent who bought one intending to prove this for us has his installed yet.  I'll follow up.
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: gadzooks on January 11, 2012, 06:25:36 PM
Joel, I have a question about pricing...
Your Basic Kit is just the trans mount and chassis adapters, right?
Why is it $35 more for the kit than separate? Am I missing something?
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: frijolee on January 11, 2012, 09:25:15 PM
Not missing something... catching something: a pricing error on our behalf. 

We accidentally posted the price of the pedestals for the mounts.  I put that back to what it's been.  The basic kit is intended to save you ~$30 vs. buying the parts alone.  The supreme kits saves you $75.

Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: frijolee on January 13, 2012, 03:32:17 PM
Reminder tomorrow is the last day we can honor the old pricing on the full kit.

Order through the site and the coupon code will be "off_the_fence".  We shut off the coupon at 6 pm. 
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: Sabre002 on January 13, 2012, 06:53:41 PM
I'm going to look at the FC tomorrow crap!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: MK3_TJ on January 14, 2012, 10:44:29 PM
Got my order in! Can't wait till they are ready!!!!!!!
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: lm38330 on January 15, 2012, 03:54:21 AM
Dammit!!!! LOL oh well...I'll just get it at the end of the month.



Thanks
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: Rogue Status on January 19, 2012, 12:57:36 PM
Just wanted to extend a thanks to the whole team at Ronin!  Parts look awesome and bolted right up without drama.  Should have the engine in trans actually in the vehicle this weekend.
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: Track_FC on January 21, 2012, 10:33:08 PM
I'm placing an order in the next couple of weeks. These look great.  :drive:
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: MK3_TJ on January 23, 2012, 01:19:19 AM
I was wondering what the status is on the mount kit?  Can't wait to get this thing goin!
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: frijolee on January 23, 2012, 12:16:18 PM
The current batch is almost done being welded.  I should have those in hand middle of the week, which lets should let us do the powder coating next weekend.

We still have several sets of parts available for this batch.
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: Sabre002 on January 23, 2012, 07:06:57 PM
Joel how is fitment with JTR LT's with this kit?

Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: frijolee on January 23, 2012, 08:35:13 PM
Joel how is fitment with JTR LT's with this kit?

Should be able to tell you more once mine finally go in, but based on what we heard from Greg, it's basically comparable to that required by Grannies on rear holes:  Some clearancing required at the lower firewall corners but nothing too terrible.

Anyone have our parts installed who can validate?
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: Sho Amo on January 25, 2012, 09:39:06 PM
Do you have any trans mounts in stock?
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: V8-rx7 on January 26, 2012, 01:03:16 AM
I am working on welding them up right now, they should be done being welded by friday. After that they still need powder, so next week sometime they should be ready.
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: Bushytea on February 27, 2012, 03:19:20 PM
Do you have any of the transmission mount kits available now?
 
Thanks
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: frijolee on February 28, 2012, 10:23:11 AM
We just finished a largish batch of parts so we have several sets of everything in stock.
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: KAX on April 12, 2012, 10:20:21 AM
Just ordered through your website.  Looking forward to getting the ls1 in the 7 finally!  :)
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: frijolee on April 16, 2012, 02:51:46 AM
Thanks for the support.
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: jasons on May 16, 2012, 11:21:48 PM
Joel,

Whew...just finished reading the entire thread. Very exciting.
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: turtle m3th on June 01, 2012, 09:31:29 PM
Can't wait for pay day to roll around! Gonna be scooping up a supreme kit of these awesome mounts!
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: frijolee on June 01, 2012, 10:13:52 PM
Can't wait for pay day to roll around! Gonna be scooping up a supreme kit of these awesome mounts!

No problem, we have them in stock and ready to go.
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: turtle m3th on June 15, 2012, 09:13:17 PM
Payment sent, and can't wait to get these bad boys!!!
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: lm38330 on September 18, 2012, 10:46:38 PM
Has anyone used your trans mount for a TH350/400 trans?
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: frijolee on September 19, 2012, 02:34:14 PM
The isolator hasn't changed since the 50's or so which leaves the only question being the fore-aft position of the mount.

Here's T56:
(http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/attachments/lsx-parts-sale/202012d1255831432-t56-mn12-gto-clone-rebuilt-hipro-parts-tremac_dims-968x638.jpg)

Note some other sources claim 26.6"
(http://imageshack.us/a/img11/2197/t56s.jpg)

I was under the impression that the 4L60E was a direct replacement length wise, but the below suggests it may not be:
(http://www.southernperformancesystems.com/Dimensions/Trans/Resources/a-dim-3e.png)

Here's a few of the older automatics
(http://www.vintermossen.se/cheva/auto/tranny_dimensions.jpg)

(http://www.thecairns.com/Impala/TrannydimensionsY.jpg)

Note, the above are not my data so buyer beware, on net I would expect our transmission mount to work fine for the th200 and th400, but not necessarily the others.  We mount to the tunnel which tapers so you should be able to make this work for about a 1/2" fore aft offset either way.  Much more than that and I'd want to make a custom piece for you.  The simplest thing we could do would be to give you the middle bar (prebent with isolator flange) but with the ends as bare tube.  You would then cut to length and weld in your own end plates as needed. 

Can anyone running 4L60E take a length measurement for me?  Belhousing to block flange -> centerline of mount.  Please note the application it came from as well...

-Joel
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: lm38330 on September 19, 2012, 04:46:03 PM
Ahh I see now.Thanks for the Joel.
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: rx7dd97 on November 23, 2014, 01:41:19 PM
Hi: I've got an '89 convertible with an F-body LS1/T56 using the Granny's kit and a custom crossmember/trans mount. Will your trans mount work?  Thanks!
Title: Re: LSx FC engine & trans mounting
Post by: frijolee on November 24, 2014, 01:58:43 AM
Hi: I've got an '89 convertible with an F-body LS1/T56 using the Granny's kit and a custom crossmember/trans mount. Will your trans mount work?  Thanks!

Assuming you have it mounted on Grannies rear holes the engine placement is similar enough that you'll be fine with our trans mount. 

If you're on the front holes, I think you'd be OK, but you might have to do a bit of tunnel massaging since the trans will land a little further forward than intended.