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Offline AndreS

Longtube Headers for LS1/AUTO/FC........ FOUND!!!!
« on: April 22, 2012, 03:36:12 AM »
This has been the holy grail  for years....  true longtube headers that fit an LSx with an automatic in an FC, with little modification. stainless at that!
Today I helped install them on my brothers car.  He has pics on his cell phone that he will be posting soon.

After some failed attempts, about a 18 months ago I started looking at these and started asking questions and trying to get measurements from the SSR community and was lucky enough to get pics and measurements of some Kooks headers bolted onto an engine on a stand, and had my brother take the gamble....  they sat in front of his car in a storage unit for months, unfortunately the project took a back seat until today. see this thread:
http://www.ssrfanatic.com/forum/f35/got-long-tube-headers-i-need-pics-48573/#post1067917

Now, what are they? they're OBX-R (brand) headers for a Chevrolet SSR off of ebay. NOTE: there are two sets listed on ebay(obvious by the pics) for the SSR, I don't know if both will fit, but these do.  The easily noticed differences between the two are the collector flange- these are a two-bolt design NOT the 4-bolt collector flange, and the tubes appear more intertwined, not more parallel or straight as they drop. These are a knockoff of headers made by Kooks for the SSR, at 2/3 the price.... yes, Chinese knockoffs(hate if you want).   They came with a 3" Y-pipe  (that we'll be cutting up so we can fit them to a 2.5" x-pipe with slip-fit reducers).... search: OBX SSR headers.  edit: from the OBX website- part number 501-1317-2 http://www.obxracingsports.com/products.php?pk=1621#

Cost currently is ~$550 shipped.

What modifications were needed?  We had to dent 2 tubes (cylinder #8 to clear the frame rail, and cylinder #3  to clear the steering shaft, dent a frame rail on the passenger side(do it while the engine is out for better effect & clearance),  dent the passenger floorboard, and cut off two unused tabs on the rear of the crossmember by the rear control arm mounts.   My brother's car had previously had an LT1, and the passenger firewall had already been beaten for header clearance, you may need some clearancing there too, but it shouldn't be as much... ours being out of the way allowed the right side O2 sensor to ft easily.  No firewall mods were needed on the driver side and the O2 sensor fits easily.

Installation- since we had the engine & transmission already in the car, we hung it on a hoist and dropped the front crossmember and took our time fitting  them with multiple test fits.  We also removed the coil packs for space, and with the crossmember out of the way, they drop in from the top easily. We are using a set of Pez (Ronin) motor mounts on this car, but they should also fit Grannies mounts as well. IDK if they will fit Hinson mounts, since they place the motor a little more forward in the car from what I understand.



 
« Last Edit: April 23, 2012, 05:06:24 AM by AndreS »
88 RX7 'SE'- LS1/4L60E, yank SS3600, T2 diff, S5 NA 5 lug swap, KYB struts, etc.... best 1/4: 11.575 @ 117, 1.59 60'.

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Re: Longtube Headers for LS1/AUTO/FC........ FOUND!!!!
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2012, 04:01:54 AM »
Pics....

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Re: Longtube Headers for LS1/AUTO/FC........ FOUND!!!!
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2012, 04:03:35 AM »
More...

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Re: Longtube Headers for LS1/AUTO/FC........ FOUND!!!!
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2012, 04:07:11 AM »
I can only add one at a time, this is kind of weird... whatever

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Re: Longtube Headers for LS1/AUTO/FC........ FOUND!!!!
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2012, 04:08:24 AM »
and

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Re: Longtube Headers for LS1/AUTO/FC........ FOUND!!!!
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2012, 04:11:46 AM »
  :cheers:

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Re: Longtube Headers for LS1/AUTO/FC........ FOUND!!!!
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2012, 04:16:06 AM »
 :chug: only took a few pics...

Offline theantirotor

Re: Longtube Headers for LS1/AUTO/FC........ FOUND!!!!
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2012, 08:20:49 AM »
I like this.  Got any more pics around the trans?
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Offline theantirotor

Re: Longtube Headers for LS1/AUTO/FC........ FOUND!!!!
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2012, 08:35:34 AM »
Also, how is the quality of the headers?
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Offline AndreS

Re: Longtube Headers for LS1/AUTO/FC........ FOUND!!!!
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2012, 01:56:18 PM »
I'll tell him to take some more pics & post up today.... he's not on here much. The car now has the subframe installed and it's sitting on all 4 wheels on ramps. Around the trans, there is just enough clearance for a standard shifter linkage (we just didn't install it yet, he's using a B&M 'hammer' shifter) and the left header does drop about an inch lower....

as for quality, they are actually fairly thick stainless(at least 18 ga), flanges looked fine at 3/8", and welds seem to be good quality TIG (but I'm no pro).  they took a bit to dent the tubes using a 4 lb hammer. I've seen bad reviews of this brand of headers, but many more recent good reviews... I think they sorted the quality control at some point. 
88 RX7 'SE'- LS1/4L60E, yank SS3600, T2 diff, S5 NA 5 lug swap, KYB struts, etc.... best 1/4: 11.575 @ 117, 1.59 60'.

Offline AndreS

Re: Longtube Headers for LS1/AUTO/FC........ FOUND!!!!
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2012, 04:08:50 PM »
I'm going to tease you with these for now(he took them yesterday)... I'm going to get some pics from underneath today & post them soon.








Also... these are the tabs you need to cut off both sides of the subframe:
« Last Edit: April 23, 2012, 04:28:33 PM by AndreS »
88 RX7 'SE'- LS1/4L60E, yank SS3600, T2 diff, S5 NA 5 lug swap, KYB struts, etc.... best 1/4: 11.575 @ 117, 1.59 60'.

Offline ALLslowNOshow

Re: Longtube Headers for LS1/AUTO/FC........ FOUND!!!!
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2012, 04:30:06 PM »
Not to shabby, go any pics of the locations you had to mod?
86 GXL - LQ9/T56

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Re: Longtube Headers for LS1/AUTO/FC........ FOUND!!!!
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2012, 08:07:44 PM »
Holy fix that terrible ground batman.  :D
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Offline bluethunder

Re: Longtube Headers for LS1/AUTO/FC........ FOUND!!!!
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2012, 08:36:19 PM »
Many thanks to AndreS for all the research and leg work.  This may be a good thing!!   Have been looking for ever for some LT for my 91 FC with an LQ motor with a 200-4R . Pretty sure my trans is a little smaller than the 4l60E, so should be a good fit.  So Kook's makes this header for the SSR?  Must be big money, but hey have nice stuff.   So I would find these on E-Bay?  Thanks again!!  Are these an 1 7/8" ??
« Last Edit: April 23, 2012, 08:45:47 PM by bluethunder »

Offline theantirotor

Re: Longtube Headers for LS1/AUTO/FC........ FOUND!!!!
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2012, 08:58:51 PM »
yes they can be found on ebay and look to be 1 3/4" tubes and 3" collector.

the ones i saw on ebay were listed for like $505 with $50 shipping.
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